The Cordoba Project Can't Afford To Develop Park51

The Cordoba Project Can’t Afford To Develop Park51

August 19, 2010  |  Thoughts

Ha.  18k collected.  $99982000 to go.   We’ll see if this pans out.   But I do think the whole experience is priceless, well worth the 18k they scrapped up from donation boxes.   Specifically the direct anti-Islamic demonstrations, burnings, threats of bombs, and ridiculous statements from elected officials are a wakeup call for Muslims to reevaluate their ‘assimilation’ and ‘integration’ policies.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2264490/entry/1/

Bill Kristol may win this round. On Wednesday, the conservative columnist stated plainly, “There will be no thirteen-story mosque near Ground Zero.” He’s probably right—not because the political panic-mongering is going to shut the project down, but because it’s going to collapse under the weight of its planners’ incompetence. Politico reports that the Cordoba Project hasn’t even begun raising money for the project. The group needs about $100 million; it has $18,255. It also lacks “even the most basic real estate essentials,” like a blueprint, an architect, and an engineer. The group’s spokesman says that while they might build the cultural center with foreign money, they would prefer to use domestic funds. But “currently, they have none of either.” And they’re not likely to come up with much, either in the way of cash or professional expertise, with their project in the middle of a political flame war. Even a source who Politico described as a “prominent supporter of the project” is less than impressed. “This is amateur hour,” he said. “That’s why the idea that this is some big conspiracy is so silly. You could say this is not a well-oiled machine.”

ht: ilyas


16 Comments


  1. Nevertheless, the Republicans are going to milk this for what it’s worth come November. Facts like these don’t matter to right wing extremists who have a virulent hatred for Islam.

    The Democratic buzz is that Obama made a major faux pas in defending Muslims’.

    If this whole controversy was a political ruse engineered by Imam Faisal & his backers, mission accomplished.

  2. Bismillahir Rahmaanir Rahiim

    This actually kinda makes me laugh. i mean no disrespect but sheesh… it’s just the usual Muslim business, modus operandi, innit? Big dreams, no cash, and people running things who have no clue what they’re doing. LOL. Just shaking my head…

  3. This is really about Anglo-Jews keeping their feet on our (Blacks’) necks. This Islamic Community Center would be open to “All” races and creeds, along with serving the community a much needed outlet for our most targeted segment; BlackBoys.

    If this “Ground Zero” are is so sacred, why is the streets near it filled with strip clubs, shady lingerie stores, and why were slave okay to be buried there? That’s right. This G. Zero is a former, mass slave burial site. Look-up the book: “Slavery in New York.”

    The fight between Good vs. evil can see and fathom the independence, lack of fear, grace and productiveness that will come from the continued and greater Good of Islamomania over KKKristianity and Jewdaism to Blacks. The Anglo-Semtiic aim is to keep us directly integrated with them, thereby profiting financially from our entertainment and athletic skills, keeping us impoverished, and seducing our females/spoiling them into stupor.

  4. salaam-o-alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barkatahu

    I’ve been going through your blog posts for a while now. It seems that your posts are of 3 general natures:
    A) Stuff about Naqshbandis
    B) Why Muslims are all bad and misguided
    C) How the West hates us.

    If your blog is about Naqshbandiyya, that’s one thing. But, your other posts criticize, condemn and at some points mock (like this one) without providing solutions. For example, you criticize Muslim Matters. Fine, sometimes criticism is due. But, what positive, PRACTICAL solutions do you offer? You can’t just call them Westernized, “House-Muslims”, without saying “But, this is what we should do instead”. Provide something more concrete than “follow our Shaykh”, or “We need leadership”. If there is an absence of leadership, then ACTIVELY fill in that gap!

    What have the Naqshbandis done– specifically? Obviously the Muslims in the US have major challenges. Have they worked towards remedying the situation? Do they work with the masses? Have they worked towards helping Muslims- not just those in the Tariqa? I see a lot of Wahabi-witch hunting and self glorification (our Shaykh is Sultanul-Evliya, pictures of the shaykh smiling, zikrs) but that’s it. I see a lot of sitting back and sniping at other Muslims.

    Next, you’re posting a lot of how some in the West hate us. That’s true, there are major elements in the west who hate us. But, what is your intention in conveying that? Is it just to make us feel threatened? Just to make us feel troubled? Is it even for us to ‘wake up’? I don’t understand.

    I would recommend future blog posts provide practical solutions that your average Muslim can apply in his daily life on a daily basis.

    May Allah help us all in these difficult times, all Muslims, and unite us all together in Jannatul Firdaws!

    • Bismillahir Rahmaanir Rahiim

      Asalaamu alaikum.

      “I would recommend future blog posts provide practical solutions that your average Muslim can apply in his daily life on a daily basis.”

      LOL. i would recommend that you start your own blog and write what you want there. If you don’t like what Yursil posts, don’t read this blog. It is one thing to be critical of what is posted (although your criticisms betray a great deal of ignorance and an agenda), but quite another to tell people what they “should” be posting.

      However, the answers to your questions are very evident in this blog if you only cared to accept the answers shown. Clearly that isn’t what you are really looking for.

      • Audhu billahi min ash-Shaytan ar-Rajeem
        Bismillah al-Rahman al-Raheem
        was-Salaat was-Salaam ‘ala Rasulullah

        Sr. Aaminah:
        wa ‘alaykum as-Salaam wa rahmatullahi!

        As a fellow Naqshbandi-Haqqani (by name only, reality is otherwise), I think brother ‘Abdullah’s observations & nasiha to Yursil were valid and given with genuine adab.

        Your response to him, on the other hand, I think was unnecessarily terse, somewhat mocking, and dismissive. And Allah & His Rasul know best.

        I say this to you, my dear sister, while at the same time agreeing with the part of the statement wherein you said, “the answers to your questions are very evident in this blog”. In other words, there are countless entries where Yursil does offer practical solutions when he offers criticism, but where I think he can continue to improve is to /always/ make sure he is able to include a practical solution otherwise it is better to keep silent.

        In other words, leave no entry that is just a critique…always have something there that offers an alternative approach. With respect to this specific entry, I personally don’t think it serves any purpose at all. It was unnecessarily harsh, sarcastic and just plain rude. I do not think there was any need to post it in the first place. Allah & His Rasul know best.

        Blogs in general are a great source of fitna. In tariqa we are taught to talk little and listen and observe much. Blogs on the other hand just encourage us to talk talk talk and then do even more talking and very little /real/ listening & communicating. Yes, this is a generalization, one that hasn’t always applied to this specific blog here, but lately (w/in the last few months or so) a very dark cloud has come over this blog. Oh! Now you may say I too also have an agenda and I say I most certainly do: I do not like dark, foreboding clouds.

        And, again, Allah & His Rasul know best.

        May Allah continue to bless & protect you, brother Yursil, and Abdullah for the Sake of His Beloved Ones and may he forgive me.

        Astaghfirullah al-’Azim wa atubu ilayh.

        May we all be inspired to think, speak and act on what is right, not what is wrong.

        As Sultan Mawlana Shaykh Nazim is always saying: We need to be good ones, not bad ones.

        It really is just that simple.

        Only a few more days of Ramadan left…let’s make the best of it!

        was-Salaam,
        Cookies (:-)

        • Bismillahir Rahmaanir Rahiim

          Asalaamu alaikum Cookie.

          Ah, so you presume to come in and lecture others without any context? Clearly you are unaware of Abdullah’s history in comments on this blog, or perhaps you are conveniently overlooking that history.

          Clearly you are unaware of, or conveniently ignoring, that Yursil writes this blog with direct support from the shaykhs of our tariqa. So there is nothing that he posts that should ever be referred to disrespectfully as you have, assuming rudeness on his part. What you call a dark cloud may very well be more a reflection on your inability to hear the truth or limited understanding of what the shaykhs have directed Yursil to do than on what the blog itself is presenting.

          Ultimately, to both you and Abdullah i say the same thing: if you don’t like the blog, don’t read it. You are certainly free to avoid this blog, to avoid the conversations. You do not know me and you do not know the history of conversations with certain people on this blog. It is quite presumptuous of you to say my comment was rude but Abdullah’s had good adab (it did not).

          And since you seem to think that you can do better, why don’t you start a blog and write all these “useful” things that you think Yursil fails to write? That’s not rude – that’s just a truth. i agree with you on one thing, which is your quote by Mawlana. Perhaps you should take it to heart before you try to advise others in ignorance.

          Wasalaam.

          • Audhu bil-Lahi min ash-shaytan ar-Rajeem
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            Dear Sr. Aaminah:
            wa ‘alaykum as-Salaam wa rahmatullahi!

            1. Abdullah is a common name, especially among Muslims who post comments on blogs from the safety of their homes, and while I do read Yursil’s blog regularly, I do not follow it closely enough to distinguish one Abdullah from another. Well, except for the time or two I’ve used that very name on here while commenting. I know /that/ guy thinking himself an abdullah very well.(:-)

            So yes, context is always important. Thank you for the reminder.

            2. Welcome to our tariqa, dear sister. Something you need to know: Permission/encouragement to do this or that from Sultan and/or any of his countless representatives throughout the world to any other member of the tariqa does not always equate complete and tacit approval of what is then eventually done in Mawlana’s name.

            So I do not doubt for one moment that our brother Yursil was encouraged or allowed or ordered or whatever the case may be to have this blog and use it for honored service to Sultan. But having that order/encouragement/permission etc does not mean everything on here automatically meets with Sultan’s approval and is actually honored service. Yursil I don’t think would put forth such a dangerous notion, and I hope you really aren’t either.

            3. Maybe you correctly guessed that my name really isn’t “Cookies”. Yursil knows who I am since as soon as he approved my comment I told him via private email though I suspect he probably already knew without me having to tell him. We have a history together alhamdulillah. A history that goes back over 10 years.

            Alhmadulillah.

            You too (and others reading this) may also know who I am.

            I say to you and everyone reading this again:

            as-Salaamu ‘alaykum! (:-)

            That is our greeting. It is a guarantee and promise of safety and security before Allah ta’ala.

            You have nothing to fear from me because you are a Protected One. All those clinging to Sultan with sincerity are Protected.

            4. I actually do have a blog. Would you be interested in reading it? Feel free to click on the link above. It requires registration if you are not already a member though. At this point it only has 1 entry because it is the only song in my heart right now. Walhamdulillah.

            5.”Tariqatuna as-suhba wa’l-khayru fi’l-jami`ah.”

            Shah Naqshband (QS!) is reported to have said: Our tariqa is based on associations [suhba], and so Goodness comes from being with the group.

            He is reported to have said that 12-24,000 times throughout his blessed life. I wonder why so many times?

            6. Our Sultan is always saying that his dergahs and zawiyahs are mental houses and each and every one of us are nothing more than patients in his mental house.

            7. Most of us are all strangers to each other, but if we really belong to Sultan then we need to know we were with him and each other loong before our arrival to this dirty playard we call dunya and so what I am trying to say is this: In the end, when the veils are lifted, we really are not strangers after all. We all come from the same Haqqani Soul.

            Allahuuu Haqq.

            And Allah & His Rasul know best.

            was-Salaamu ‘alaykum,
            Just Another Boo Radley

            …err I mean Cookies the Mangy Dog.

            Sorry.

            Allahumma salli ‘ala Sayyidina Muhammadin, Nabi al-Ummi, wa ‘ala Alihi wa Sahbihi wa sallim

  5. BismillahirRahmanirRahim
    Salamu’alaykum,

    What have the Naqshbandis done– specifically? Obviously the Muslims in the US have major challenges. Have they worked towards remedying the situation?

    Naqshbandis have worked to establish real communities across the globe of people practicing the faith and living simply. They have followed the Prophetic example, the sunnah, of living together with Muslims while reaching out to greater community to call them into this way. The example of Medinah.

    Do they work with the masses? Have they worked towards helping Muslims- not just those in the Tariqa? I see a lot of Wahabi-witch hunting and self glorification (our Shaykh is Sultanul-Evliya, pictures of the shaykh smiling, zikrs) but that’s it. I see a lot of sitting back and sniping at other Muslims.

    Everyone is helped in demonstrating living the lifestyle of the Prophet (AS) and what a successful thing it is to live in this way. If people are made to smile, to do zikr, from these efforts … alhamdullillah then, I consider it a big success.

    I’m not sniping, really the ‘masses’ are on such a fence where one light breeze could push them over one side or the other. A rifle isn’t required, a breath is.

    I will continue pointing out the logical flaws of approach that are in front of everyone’s faces but being kept quiet about and hush-hush because they are not the politically correct thing to say when progressing within these individual organizations and their own eco-systems.

    Next, you’re posting a lot of how some in the West hate us. That’s true, there are major elements in the west who hate us. But, what is your intention in conveying that? Is it just to make us feel threatened? Just to make us feel troubled? Is it even for us to ‘wake up’? I don’t understand.

    Don’t worry about my intentions, they are between me and my Lord. What you can have us Husn ad dhan brother.

    Whatever you feel though, and whatever you don’t like to feel about the truth, you may take that energy now and look to see for yourself: what is the answer?

  6. BismillahirRahmanirRahim
    Salamu’alaykum,

    In other words, leave no entry that is just a critique…always have something there that offers an alternative approach. With respect to this specific entry, I personally don’t think it serves any purpose at all. It was unnecessarily harsh, sarcastic and just plain rude. I do not think there was any need to post it in the first place. Allah & His Rasul know best.

    This is a pretty silly request. The obvious alternative approach is for people to turn back to Allah and His Prophet (AS). In this post I’m giving some news and a small commentary. I’m finding good in the bad news, the experience was priceless. Muslims have realized what a slippery slope it is to lose tolerance and respect in this country.

    Nothing else is needed to be said.

  7. Bismillahir Rahmaanir Rahiim

    Asalaamu alaikum again Cookies… subhanAllah, could you try not to talk down to me? i am not a brand new ignorant mureed, and i too have a lengthy history with Yursil. Your comments about whether something is properly approved by Mawlana are frankly pointless. For one, you aren’t telling me anything i don’t already know, and for another your assumption that what Yursil writes must not really be supported/approved of by Mawlana, on the basis that you don’t like or understand it, is really problemmatic. You seem to think you have a right to come here and tell him what he “should” and shouldn’t write, as well as insult him by saying his posts are rude and sarcastic. But who are you? And i don’t literally mean that because it really doesn’t matter to me; what i mean is who do you think you are to tell him what or how to write? Why do you think that you know something that our Shaykh and Mawlana do not? Why do you think you are someone to correct him, better than the shaykhs must do? i have a debt to Yursil and will speak in support of him against anyone who attempts to discredit or disrespect him, or begin fitnah with him. That was my only point. It seems to me that you could perhaps simply mind your own business before you start advising people you know nothing whatsoever of in circumstances that you know nothing about. i will end with a very simple request that does not require such lengthy ridiculous response from you: if you enjoy this blog, alhamdulAllah, may you benefit from it. If you do not enjoy this blog then you should simply find other reading material rather than making demands upon Yursil to write what suits your ego. As we say in our tariqa, welcome to those who enter, farewell to those who leave.

    • ah, subhanAllah… i did not click but did look at the link… i know who you are, Cookies, and have nothing further to say to such a one as you except

      audhu bil-lahi min ash-shaytan ar-rajeem
      audhu bil-lahi min ash-shaytan ar-rajeem
      audhu bil-lahi min ash-shaytan ar-rajeem

  8. Do you know why I left Sheikh Nazim’s tariqa? Because all the murids and khulafa fight each other…No tasawwuf, just fighting. Let’s take out our swords instead of doing Zikr..We’ll cut each others throats to make Shaikh Nazim happy, although cutting throats and fighting is not encouraged by Shaikh Nazim!!

  9. Wow. I thought this was an interesting post, and now I read the comments and I’m amazed at how childish this little back-and-forth argument is. And apparently you all are from the same tariqa? Hah, incredible.

    This calls to memory the whole Shaykh A vs. Shaykh B saga from a couple months ago as well.

    Ah, beloved Sufis, something doesn’t seem right.

    Peace!

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