Shaykh Effendi is saying the whole point of life is to go out with Shahadat. Shaitan cannot come in the form of a man anymore, but he enters inside of everyone. Shaykh tells the story of a man who was tricked by Shaitan to do big sins and then ask forgiveness. The Holy Prophet (S) said that faith and kufr cannot exist in the same heart.
My question is why do Naqshbandi, put up pic of their leaders? Islam forbids us to put up images.
BismillahirRahmanirRahim
Salamu’alaykum,
Islam doesn’t forbid pictures, we keep some pictures as reminders of good things. You see thousands of pictures if you are using the computer or watching one minute of TV. Its better for our eyes to see good things.
-Yursil
I see you took down what I put up, it’s your right just tell me what you think about my comments this is a dialog that is very important and I think your answer is not from the book of Allah and the sunna. .
BismillahirRahmanirRahim
Salamu’alaykum,
According to many Hanafi shaykhs photographs are permissible and is in fact the stronger Shariat position. For example, Shaykh Faraz Rabbani has said: “Legally, I feel the position of permissibility is stronger.” As for coming up with your own opinion based on your reading of Quran and Sunnah, that is your choice. The Shaykhs on the other hand know details about which hadith are the best to consider and how to interpret the ayats of the Quran.
You said in this day and age a DMV picture and passport picture etc are necessary. They are *not* necessary. In fact, driving is a privilege not a right according to US Law. If you think that pictures are allowed through necessity then you believe that Allah has some exception in the Quran and Hadith to allow driving pictures. Please show me where the exception is.
-Yursil
Well a majority of the Shaykhs say it forbidden. Well it is the law to have a government ID, it dose not have to be a drivers ID, but it is mandatory by law. Also if you want to make hajj you must take your pic for a passport.
As I said before I been to your ziker meetings also I spent some time in Cyprus, where my mom’s family owns a house, and I stop by your “world headquarters.”
The first thing I noticed was allot of pics of your “masters” (Allah alone is the master) The first thing that came to my hart was the saying of our beloved Rasoul (PABBUH) “Angels do not enter a house where there is a picture or a dog”
look maybe I am more sensitive to this subject of pics and images, because my pops is a Spanish catholic, and my pops would take me to church and all I saw was pics and idols, thank Allah I took the deen of my mom. When I walked into your meeting spots in NY and Cyprus it felt wrong and I felt like I was back in Church.
I will say I will take the sayings of our rasoul over a person, so “Angels do not enter a house where there is a picture or a dog” if that is not clear may Allah gide us ameen. May Allah gide us from innovation, because innovation is astray and anything that is astray is in ………
I also don’t want you to see my wording and label me to a group I am Muslim, and try my best to obey Allah and his rasoul.
BismillahirRahmanirRahim
Salamu’alaykum,
There is no law for government ID in the US, you are just making stuff up.
And if tomorrow they made a law to drink, would you drink alcohol? Haraam is haraam. And if its haraam, then you are being a hypocrite. Read about those ayats.
Scholars read that hadith and understand it differently than you. You are giving the meaning that comes to you, and they are giving the meaning from all the other hadith they have studied.
As far as what you saw where you saw it, I have nothing to say to you. If you have a problem with Shaykh Maulana Nazim, then I feel sorry for you. Your religion seems to not be of the Rasul (S) because he passed the knowledge of Islam to his Sahabi (R) and then the Tabayeen and Tabatabayeen and onwards to us. You are not looking to that line of knowledge, but are making your own thing.
You didn’t visit us in NY otherwise you would have met me.
Well I am In VA and in this state you need an ID, by law also I am from NYC the Bronx, and when I was in HS I had to get a school ID or a state ID.
I have no problem with Hoja Nazim, I might not take knowledge from him, but I respect him as a Muslim.
I been to your spot in NYC, I remember its near the port authority, about a year after I became Muslim I hung around you guys for a few months. I don’t recall names it was about 10 to11 years ago. Also when I went to Cyprus I stop by your center it was brief, and the brothers where respectful and I had tea. A big turn off I must say with you guys was your anti whaabi talk it was a bit much. Also I let someone use my book on Ottoman sultans and I never got that back, so if you could get that for me that will be good.
You don’t need to use the word hypocrite, also don’t say I never visit your spot in NY it was along time ago.
A government ID is mandatory, without one you will not be able to function at all espacally after 9/11.
BismillahirRahmanirRahim
Salamu’alaykum,
VA is fighting a national ID program and there is no law for a state ID, as I said you are making stuff up. In the Bronx, you can drop out of high school. The point is what are you willing to sacrifice to keep to what you think is ‘halaal’.
And you didn’t answer my question, if they made up a law tomorrow that everyone had to drink alcohol at a certain time, would you do it?
As far as what we have in NYC, we don’t have a single picture hanging anywhere.
Maybe there is a reason why there was talk against the Wahabis, you should double check that. As far as who you gave a book to, please go ask them.
Ok mister Yursil if a cop stops you on the street without an ID, that is a crime not even driving. I know this for a fact because this happen to me. You changed the subject the subject is the pics of your master on the wall.
No I would not drink alcohol I will leave the wine drinking to the sufi’s
I been to your spot in NYC, and you have your master’s pic on the wall I saw it, ok next time I am NYC, I will find your spot and tell you the location.
And the reason why you guys talk about “wahbis” is that its apart of your deen, and your masters our still upset over the loss of Mecca and Medina, to the Arabs, we all know we are better off Mecca and Madina being under control of the Arabs that Atta Truk.
You guys need to get off your Wahbis slander, you guys sound like fox news.
You know what next time I go to NYC I will stop by your spot and we can tailk over tea, an old Turkish custom you never know you might remember me.
We are at 353 W 39th St room 304. Friday Nights at 7. See you then. Bring your haraam photo ID so I can have a laugh over that tea! Introduce yourself as hor.
You claim you would not drink the alcohol if the law was passed, but you are committing haraam everyday with your photo id. You have already proven whose law you hold highest, at it is American law not Shariat.