BismillahirRahmanirRahim
Salamu’alaykum,
Below is the transcription of the March 13th Sohbet given by Shaykh Maulana in Cyprus.
Shaykh Maulana is speaking very openly about the position of the UN, his visit there and about the fear of nations from disease. Shaykh Maulana is directly declaring the UN the center of Shaitan. I found this to be the most direct admonishment of those who seek to ‘work’ with the establishment.
The video is also available here:
Sheykh Maulana Nazim / Sohbet / March 13, 2008 from Naqshbandi OTTOMAN on Vimeo.
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AshaduAllahIllallah waAshadhuAnaMuhummadurRasulluh Sallalahu’alaihiwassalam
Salamu’alaykum
Destur Sayiddina Sultan Awliya
Welcome to you.
May Allah forgives us. And blessings you and me.. and whom they are saying “Oh our Lord, you created… me and everyone and we are asking forgiveness, and asking your blessings” If no blessings, no life for mankind. And we are saying:
Audhu bi-llahi mina shaitanir rajim
BismillahirRahmanirRahim
Worst thing on mankind to forget their common enemy. And they are leaving that terrible enemy and making innocent ones their enemies. It is a short association, that means.. advising… because we are in need. Sometimes advise, as you are physical being, needs to eat and drink. Our spirituality means needs also a support from Heavens. And Support from Heavens, coming from Heavens with whom? With such a people that they are …eh.. granted … some specialities… that specialities making them to ask.. something, not from Earth, from Heavens. Therefore the creator appointing.. appointing someones that they should be much more interesting for Heavens.
Through those people we may reach heavenly support, if we are not asking heavenly support it is going to be such a, flowers… cut from it’s roots and putting in water, but daily they are coming.. they are coming to be less… bright, and finally they are asking to throw them away. But whom they are with? Their roots getting more and more. They are taking from Earth what it is necessary for them. Now mankind also.. whom they are.. asking a heavenly support that means they are not asking to be cut off from their roots. They are asking to be with their roots, up to.. appointed time for them.
But now people in our days they, all of them mostly, they are asking to be cut off from their real roots. That their real roots belonging to Heavens. That means they are interesting with their material, not interesting.. their spirituality. And you are looking now. Look. Look! East and west. From North to South. No one making spirituality on first row. No. Perhaps, looking who is here? Belongs to spirituality? Take them away!
Seven years ago, perhaps ten years ago, I was in America.. U.S. and they were taking me.. some our brothers.. some of them then.. they are working in that association. What? U.N. … U.N? … U.N. It is biggest association on Earth. Including every kind of people from every nation. They are taking one from our followers, saying.. you may visit that center. U.N. center. Yes!
That one had a authority to take some visitors for that center. We went in. And we were looking around, some of our friends, they were saying to me. “Oh Shaykh. We are not praying yet, Zuhr praying. And we are in need to pray Zuhr praying quickly and join it to you.” I said “we are here” and perhaps 10 people or 15 people.. Ihsan, you were there? They becoming in a far place, they are going to pray. After one minute or two minutes, just like a… ha… (?) poles! Such a high guardians, shouting and running on them. “What happening?” They are shouting “You can’t pray here! It is not belongs to no one coming in with Allah, with God! No! No permission!”
I am saying “Go to Hells! Come out, we are going out. Not entering!” That place, that…their comments… in such a way? Cursing from Heavens always come on you! I don’t like to be here! Ever! Get out! No need for me to look buildings.
I was thinking to look, what they were thinking. It is enough to show what they are! Understand that, whole nations there, that they have representatives they are.. making their heads down, obeying to Shaytan. Not saying, there is a God that created us? What is that foolishness!? Dirtiness!? I was so angry.
And they are putting a revolver.. pistol? outside of.. and putting a handkerchief. Making like this, pistol.. Making with a piece of clothes, making a machine (shape of pistol).
What a symbol. They are presenting this, showing to people that they are not making any trouble of machine.. That they are coming to make peace, world peace there. And preventing to use.. Silah, weapons.
I said, Ya hu, put a.. what is this? handkerchief? Maybe much more ….. fashionable.. Instead to put handkerchief… eh handkerchief? put … what is this? Tie! To be much more… fashionable. People may say.. revolver, pistol, with handkerchief and also tie. PTSU!!! (Shaykh Maulana is making spitting noise) Such a dirty, dirty showings! Those people going to bring peace to people, to Earth!? Can’t. They are only knowing to kill innocent people. To kill them, to destroy, to burn everything.
That is the center of Shaitan on Earth.
I think if they are hearing on this, they are not going to be happy. I am weakest one on Earth. But sometimes weakest… Weakest. Smallest than ordinary… smaller.. what is this? (association suggests words) They can’t see it. Aha, virus! (pointing to suggestion from Shaykh Abdul Kerim’s mureed) They are saying veerus! Virus. Can’t understand from you.. That one is American representative here (speaking to Shaykh Abdul Kerim’s mureed)
Yes. I am weakest. But so smallest thing that they are only knowing it is in existance, but they can’t see it, or they can’t touch it, or they can’t fight it. Making whole nations to fear virus. Birds flu? Birds flu?? (Maulana is shaking!) What happening America? What happening Russia? What happening Turkey? What happening Europeans? What happening? Virus coming.
I am asking how? Flying? Walking? From Heavens? From hells? From Oceans? From where coming? Who sending? Why not saying such a things to people? And there is some.. someone that sending that virus! You can’t see it with more strongest microscope.. you can’t see it! Who created it? Or who is bringing it into existence. Who teaching them to do this or to do that? But they are liars! And they are shaitan’s agents. Agent? Agents! They are not saying this. They are only shouting in UN Center, “You can’t pray! Allah never coming here!” Allah send on them that virus to eat them! Cursing from Heavens that virus. Some day, some times, it may be sent to mankind and taking them away and they are, they’re infection or their weapons virus… weapons much more powerful, more than their… missles. More than this powerful this virus. Yet not bringing something to their mind to think on it. And they working for Shaitan. Not working… not respecting and serving their Lords service. And Allah, lord of Heavens should take revenge on them.
I am very angry today, and my anger is not anger from Earth but anger from Heavens. It is written through history books, that before one thousand years ago or more, there is Basra in Iraq. An old city. It was much more famous then Baghdad that time. And people they lost their ways. They were in ghaflat.. ghaflat! heedless.. heedless people. They were doing wrong things. And the Lord of Heavens sending a virus. That we are now saying virus, they are saying it is Ghabah.. Tawoon.. Tawoon means a spare it, that you are throwing on a person it is killing them. Tawoon means that terrible virus if touching a person morning up to evening. If touching from evening until morning finishing. And that cursing from Heavens coming on the people living in Basra, first day. It is written through Islamic histories about that big city that seventy thousand people just passed away first day. Second day, seventy one thousand people just passed away. Third day, seventy three thousand passed away. Fourth day whole city was closed because no one from their homes was through homes.. some person, living person to get out. Or you can’t find from outside people coming to …opening their doors to come in.
Fear from Allah! From your Lord! If sending virus and different types, may take whole world people. Only they were living in that Basra, some people. As you are adding your fingers, they were not touched. Because the Lord of Heavens saying, don’t touch this, that one. Others touched them, yet He is Allah!
Eternal! His Sultanate Eternal! You must obey, mankind, the Lord of Creation and His Sultanate from Eternity up to Eternity! And He is Eternal One. Only Eternal One.
May Allah Forgives us.
For the honor of most honored one, in His Divinely Presence, Sayiddina Muhummad, Peace Be Upon Him. And peace be upon all , every prophets. Including Jesus Christ, including Moses, including Abraham, including Isaac, including Ismael, including Noah, and Adam from beginning until end.
I hope I shall destroy Batil, false. I am weakest one. Perhaps I may do less than a virus, but it is enough. It may be enough to make them to be taken away.
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I have just recently started reading your blogs and although I am not in complete agreement with your thought process, I must say they are nevertheless enlightening. Keep up the good work. This was an interesting talk given by Shaykh Maulana. But I have some points that would require clarification – maybe you could help me with that.
First of all, it seems as though Shaykh Maulana had no problem with going to the UN center in the first place, and only labeled them as a ‘center of Shaitan’ AFTER the group was not allowed to offer their prayers there. Excusee the language for such a great Shaykh, but doesn’t that seem narrow-minded? I mean, various offices have certain policies to not allow religious practices within their buildings, and I think that should be respected. If the UN was to be called a Shaitan because of their policies in the Middle East (or lack thereof) for example, I could understand – but for not being able to offer prayer in their building? I think that is a bit harsh.
Second of all, I would like to say there is alot of good coming out of the UN as well. I personally know some people who work for the establishment and they are really helping people rebuild their communities, families, lives, etc. So to admonish everyone from ‘working with the UN’ is not universally applicable.
May Allah forgive me if I have said anything wrong.
WA
Junaid
BismillahirRahmanirRahim
Salamualaykum Junaid,
I can speak to you as I understand it. And I understand that the Awliya, like Khizr (AS), operate at a completely different level than the ordinary ego-driven man or woman. Their sohbet itself has at least seven layers of meaning if we are seeking to understand it and submit to their guidance truly, otherwise, even the most knowledgeable of us will be like Musa (AS) and be unable to keep their company.
Shaykh Maulana uses the one incident in this sohbet, as a kindling point to represent a greater problem with ideology of the UN. When he calls them the center of shaitan, it is in the contexts of the statements before, not simply his experience praying:
“They are only knowing to kill innocent people. To kill them, to destroy, to burn everything.”
Further understanding and contemplation of the Sohbet will makes it clear that it is the core principles of the UN itself which are inherently shaitanic, and that is a something deep within its nature. The nature of the UN becomes more apparent to those who hold the return of Isa (AS) as an upcoming reality, and its role in the collapse of the Caliphate and the continued subjugation of a people. So indeed, Shaykh Maulana is not explicitly spelling out each and every aspect of the reasons ‘why’, but working in more subtle ways. It is clear it is far from his one experience which moved him to speak, the example was simply a perfect one to demonstrate a larger attitude towards religiosity from what is a secular organization.
As far as having this public opinion after visiting rather than prior based on policies, there is something to be said to physically seeing, feeling the reality of a place before speaking against it as well. Speaking from my own experience, holy and good places smell different, feel different, taste different from places of evil.
The Awliya see signs of Allah in different ways than us, who often forget that Allah is the cause of all things. When the Awliya experience Shaitans preventing them from praying, they know and acknowledge what is at the root of driving them from being hostile, whether that be simply following of ‘policy’ or an actual desire to disrupt prayer. Public prayer was not allowed in JFK terminal as a ‘matter of policy’, but this Sunday, on receiving Shaykh Abdul Kerim we did just that over objections.
Yes, there are certainly some people that have good intentions and do good work, in fact, as stated in the sohbet, one of his people had access to the UN. But when Allah Almighty reigns down chastisement and punishment on a group, it can be broad and apply to good and bad. Even if there are good amongst an inherently evil group, the good will be with the bad when the chastisement and punishment comes.
The chastisement of the Awliya (as in this sohbet) is one aspect of this ayat:
Quran al Karim, BismillahirRahmanirRahim
And guard yourselves against a chastisement which cannot fall exclusively on those of you who are wrong-doers, and know that Allah is severe in punishment. (Pikthal translation, Quran 8:25)
And with that in mind, there is no discussion in this sohbet preventing people from working with the UN, rather there are indeed key people in there who are representing and preparing for the things Shaykh Maulana has trained them with and for. But the intention has to be clear and the alignment with the forces of Haqq has to be clear against Batil.
With the instruction of this great Wali of Allah, inshaAllah rahman they will escape that described above.
Finally, Shaykh Maulana needs no defense from me, so please realize this is simply an advice to help a sincere individual understand how I perceive things.
Salamu’alaykum,